{"id":60687,"date":"2021-10-27T13:16:25","date_gmt":"2021-10-27T11:16:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/?p=60687"},"modified":"2021-10-28T09:43:08","modified_gmt":"2021-10-28T07:43:08","slug":"storie-di-isf-roberta-62-anni-esodata-dalla-legge-fornero-non-puo-ancora-andare-in-pensione","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/storie-di-isf-roberta-62-anni-esodata-dalla-legge-fornero-non-puo-ancora-andare-in-pensione\/","title":{"rendered":"Stories of ISF. Roberta, 62 years old, exodus from the Fornero law cannot retire yet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An interview with Roberta Zangrilli, exodata ISF, is reported in today&#039;s La Repubblica. In an i<a href=\"https:\/\/www.iltabloid.it\/2018\/04\/06\/esodati-dichiarazioni-roberta.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ninterview<\/a> of 3 years <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-35482 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Roberta-Zangrilli.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"247\" height=\"226\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Roberta-Zangrilli.png 311w, https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Roberta-Zangrilli-300x274.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 247px) 100vw, 247px\" \/>ago to Radio Cusano Campus, which we have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/storie-di-isf-esodati-parla-roberta-ex-isf-ecco-come-mi-ha-trattata-un-dipendente-dellinps\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported on April 6, 2018<\/a> he said: \u201cI worked as a scientific medical informant and I was an employee of a multinational pharmaceutical company. I became redundant in January 2010. Since 2004, there has been a huge crisis in our sector and about 20,000 jobs have been lost. Under the old law I should have retired at 60 years and 6 months. I was on the move until the end of 2013. With the current rules and with the Fornero Law I should retire in 2027, so when I&#039;m 67 years old&quot;.<\/p>\n<p>Roberta told, again 3 years ago, that she had gone to the INPS to ask for information and the experience she had is bordering on the surreal:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI had applied for the eighth safeguard. I received a letter stating that my application had not been accepted because a document was missing. I brought it and then never heard from again. I am <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-60688 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Roberta-Zangrilli-ISF-esodata-a-Repubblica.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"422\" height=\"220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Roberta-Zangrilli-ISF-esodata-a-Repubblica.png 721w, https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Roberta-Zangrilli-ISF-esodata-a-Repubblica-300x156.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 422px) 100vw, 422px\" \/>went to the INPS to inform me, knowing full well that the thing had not gone through. An employee told me that no more safeguards will be done, I&#039;m not sure in what capacity. Then she told me: &quot;I have 42 years of contributions and I can&#039;t retire&quot; as if it was my fault that I was no longer able to find work&quot;.<\/p>\n<p>The retroactive application of the Fornero law has made her an exodus: without a pension and without a salary. \u201cI tried to relocate, he says in today&#039;s interview with Repubblica, but for me there was nothing. I&#039;ve never been able to hook the requirements of the nine safeguards. I have 28 years of contributions: they cannot access the Ape sociale which asks for 30 and I have no children to discount the requirement by two years, Option for women asks for 35, Quota 100 at least 38. It takes 20-25 thousand to redeem the degree euros that I don&#039;t have. My husband and I live a life of sacrifices. Why is the state betraying us like this?\u201d<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Ed<\/strong><\/span>:<\/p>\n<p><em>Without going into the merits of the Fornero Law (Decree Law 201\/2011 converted with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gazzettaufficiale.it\/eli\/id\/2011\/12\/27\/011G0256\/sg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">law 214\/2011<\/a>), Between <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-60689 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/fornero-elsa-1200x720-1-1024x614.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"340\" height=\"204\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/fornero-elsa-1200x720-1-1024x614.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/fornero-elsa-1200x720-1-300x180.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/fornero-elsa-1200x720-1-768x461.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/fornero-elsa-1200x720-1-780x470.jpeg 780w, https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/fornero-elsa-1200x720-1.jpeg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px\" \/>controversies and clarifications that have followed over the years, the latter has revolutionized the Italian pension system and in some way triggered benefits and problems. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Complications have concerned a number of workers who, retroactively, have suffered from the raising of the retirement age despite having already entered into incentive agreements to leave (early retirement) or despite being just a few years away from the old age pension or contributory seniority: the so-called exodus . <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The seriousness of the situation of these people is demonstrated by the fact that the legislator has approved nine legislative measures (the last one is the so-called\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.pensionioggi.it\/dizionario\/nona-salvaguardia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ninth safeguard<\/a>\u00a0is almost ten years after the Fornero Reform) to respond to these audiences. By now the number of exodus persons from the Fornero law has drastically reduced both for pension safeguards and for other reforms of the pension system (for example the<a href=\"https:\/\/www.pensionioggi.it\/dizionario\/ape-agevolato\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">social bee<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pensionioggi.it\/dizionario\/opzione-donna\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">female option<\/a>, benefit for early and the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.pensionioggi.it\/dizionario\/quota-100\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">share 100<\/a>\u00a0which is currently under discussion for abolition) which offered a structural exit valve to those who had been stranded in the pension reform. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-60690 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Riforma-Pensioni-Novita-Esodati-Emendamento-per-inserire-anche-i-Mobilitati-nellOttava-Salvaguardia-ultime-notizie-live-e-news.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"284\" height=\"230\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Riforma-Pensioni-Novita-Esodati-Emendamento-per-inserire-anche-i-Mobilitati-nellOttava-Salvaguardia-ultime-notizie-live-e-news.jpeg 376w, https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Riforma-Pensioni-Novita-Esodati-Emendamento-per-inserire-anche-i-Mobilitati-nellOttava-Salvaguardia-ultime-notizie-live-e-news-300x243.jpeg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 284px) 100vw, 284px\" \/>However, almost ten years and nine safeguards were not enough to definitively close the mess of the exodus, combined in 2011 by the pension reform by Elsa Fornero and Mario Monti. Even the latest intervention, the one contained in the 2021 budget law, left out a part, albeit limited, of those affected by the maneuver. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The Ninth Safeguard is a provision that still can&#039;t put an end to the drama of these last Esodati now on their last legs. Victims of the disaster created by the &quot;Fornero manoeuvre&quot;, they will still be denied both due justice and fairness with the other approximately 144,000 expatriates already retired. However, it seems that from a financial point of view we cannot do without the Fornero Reform for which the government resurrects the reform, dated 2011 and rejected by the Italians in all the elections of the last ten years. And, while it&#039;s at it, it also recycles Fornero as a person, as a consultant.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Related news: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.camera.it\/temiap\/documentazione\/temi\/pdf\/1104126.pdf?_1564129857238\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">House of Representatives. The question of exodus<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Su La Repubblica di oggi viene riportata un\u2019intervista a Roberta Zangrilli, ISF esodata. In un\u2019intervista di 3 anni fa a Radio Cusano Campus, che abbiamo riportato il 6 aprile 2018 raccontava: \u201cLavoravo come informatore medico scientifico ed ero dipendente di una multinazionale dell\u2019industria farmaceutica. Sono entrata in mobilit\u00e0 a gennaio del 2010. Dal 2004, nel &hellip;<\/p>","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":60693,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[23,27],"class_list":["post-60687","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-notizie","tag-informatore","tag-licenziati"],"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/60687","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=60687"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/60687\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/60693"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=60687"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=60687"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fedaiisf.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=60687"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}